The Parents of Maria (Muijters) Gelis

by Wesley Johnston (last updated 11 Mar 2012 - added Richard Hubert alternate conclusion)

 

The following records are all from the St. Martinus Roman Catholic Church in Weert, now in the province of Limburg in the Netherlands, except as noted. There Maria Muijters married Antonius Gelis 24 Jan 1700, with witnesses Maria Gelis and Joannes Gelis. The couple's first child, Wilhelmus Gelis, was baptized 6 Nov 1700, with sponsors Joannes Gelis, Joanna Verlinden and Elizabeth Muijters. This document examines the evidence for candidate parents of Maria Muijters.

Baptisms

These candidates for the baptism of Maria Muijters are found in the GenDaLim 7 database (Genealogical Data Limburg of the Stichtung LGGI = Limburgs Genealogisch en Geschiedkundig Informationcentrum), search with MU*TER* as the surname, where * represents an indefinite number of any characters.

 

1667-03-07 - Maria - to Matthias Muijters & Joanna (no surname), sponsors Livinius Verlinden & Joanna Munsters

1669-05-05 - Maria - at Nederweert, to Matthias Muijters & Dijmphna (no surname), sponsors Matthias Vliegen & Catharina Meijers 

1675-09-26 - Maria - at Nederweert, to Matthias Muijters & Christina Wagemans, sponsors Guilielma Wagemans & Jacobus Muijters 

1677-10-31 - Maria - to Martinus Mueters & Joanna Bruens, sponsors Joannes Mueters & Maria Knoeps

1689-06-12 - Maria Joanna - to Martinus Muijters & Joanna de Bruijn, sponsors Matthias Muijters & Clara de Bruijn

 

The 1677 and 1689 baptisms appear to be to children of the same parents, which likely means that the first child had died, and the second was given the name again.

So it appears that one the correct baptism must have been one of the other three: 1667, 1669 and 1675, of which the last two were at Nederweert. All three of these children have a father named Matthias, which was the name given to the apparent third son (and fourth child) of Antonius and Maria.

The fact that one of the sponsors of the 1667 baptism was a Verlinden and that one of the sponsors of the first child of Antonius and Maria (Wilhelmus 1700) was a Verlinden may indicate that the 1667 child (the only remaining candidate baptized in Weert) is the correct Maria.

Here are the details of the baptisms of the children on Antonius Gelis and Maria Muijtens:

1700-11-06 - Wilhelmus - sponsors Joannes GelisJoanna Verlinden and Elizabeth Muijters

1703-02-15 - Joannes - sponsors Catharina Houben & Antonius Gielis

1705-07-19 - Joanna - sponsors Catharina Muijters & Henricus Cluijskens

1708-02-24 - Matthias - sponsors Maria Muijters & Aegidius Gelis

1710-08-08 - Joanna - sponsors Martinus Muijters, Margaretha  de Bruijn & Catharina Houben

1712-05-13 - Catharina - sponsors Petrus Truijen & Joanna Reijnders

1714-04-10 - Petrus - sponsors Elisabeth Smullenaers & Martinus Muijters

From this list, it seems very likely that the Martinus Muijters and Joanna de Bruijn who were the parents of the two eliminated candidates (1677 and 1689) were closely related  to the Matthias Muijters who was the father of Maria Muijters.

Marriages

GenDaLim has the following likely marriages of the parents of the three candidate Marias.

1660-06-12 - in Nederweert - Matthias Blommers &  Dimphna Meijers - sponsors Matthias Muijters & Joannes Meijers

Clearly this is not the right marriage, but I cannot find the right marriage, and this one is striking in the similarity of names with the 1669 Maria baptism. 

1661-10-04 - Mathias Muijters & Joanna vander linden - sponsors Joannes Linsen & Lucia Duijnen 

1669-02-12 - in Nederweert - Matthias Muijters & Christina Wagemans - sponsors Guilielmus Wagemans & Joannes Jacquet

I was able to find only the one child, the 1675 Maria in Nederweert for Matthias & Christina.

So by the Verlinden connection and also by the lack of any other viable candidate, the 1661 marriage and thus the 1667 Maria baptism appear to be the correct ones.

Siblings

The following children were found for Mathias Muijters & Joanna vander linden / Verlinden.

1662-07-20 - Wilhelmus Muijters - to Mathias Muijters & Joanna (no surname) - sponsors Joannes Muijters & Maria Bouwels

1665-12-20 - Joannes Muijters - to Matthias Muijters & Joanna (no surname) - sponsors Dionisius Van Den Kraen & Joanna Knepkens

1667-03-07 - Maria Muijters - to Matthias Muijters & Joanna (no surname) - sponsors Livinus Verlinden & Joanna Munsters

1669-08-22 - Joanna Muijters - to Matthias Muijters & Joanna (no surname) - sponsors Lunnus van der Linden & Henrica Cops

1675-03-28 - Wilhelmus Muijters - to Matthias Muijters & Joanna (no surname) - sponsors Martinus Muijters & Joanna Knepkens

1678-08-30 - Elisabeth Muijters - to Matthias Muijters & Joanna van der Linden - sponsors Martinus Muijters & Maria Daelens

Presumably, the Elizabeth Muijters who sponsored the baptism of Wilhelmus Gelis (to Antonius Gelis and Maria Muijters) was this 1678 sister of the 1667 Maria. And the Joanna Verlinden who was also a sponsor at the same baptism was probably a relative of Maria (Muijters) Gelis through her mother Joanna (vander Linden) Muijters.

Richard Hubert's Alternate Conclusion

Richard Hubert has reached a different conclusion, also based solely on GenDaLim. His web page on the family is at 

http://gw5.geneanet.org/rhubert?lang=en&p=maria&n=muijters&oc=1

He believes that Maria was the one born 1675 at Nederweert:

1675-09-26 - Maria - at Nederweert, to Matthias Muijters & Christina Wagemans, sponsors Guilielma Wagemans & Jacobus Muijters  

Richard cites these reasons for his conclusion: "1667 would mean Maria would be 47 to have her last child....could be done in our time but not in 1714... Look at the witness Martinus Muijters which I think is her brother baptised 11-11-1670 in Nederweert....."

The baptismal witnessing that Richard is referring to is Maria's son:

1714-10-10 - Petrus - sponsors Elisabeth Smullenaers & Martinus Muijters